Buyers of gold in 1980, when the metal was 'hot' and inflation was rampant, were told that the precious yellow would protect their buying power over time.
Was that true?
The average price of gold was $612.56 that year and $610.00 twenty six years later in 2006. How much did the dollar's buying power decline in those 26 years?
From the 1980 average price of $612.50 gold declined to an average price of just $272.22 - or (55.56%) when it bottomed in 2001. Twenty one years of no income and capital losses.
Don't believe today's commodity crazies that would have you load up on tangibles right as they are at all-time highs. Learn from the past to avoid repeating the errors of past generations.
Year.......Average New York Market Price
(U.S. dollars per fine ounce) prices are not inflation adjusted.
1981 ................459.64
1982 ................375.91
1983 ................424.00
1984 ................360.66
1985 ................317.66
1986 ................368.24
1987 ................447.95
1988 ................438.31
1989 ................382.58
1990 ................384.93
1991 ................363.29
1992 ................344.97
1993 ................360.91
1994 ................385.42
1995 ................385.50
1996 ................389.09
1997 ................332.39
1998 ................295.24
1999 ................279.91
2000 ................280.10
2001 ................272.22
2002 ................311.33
2003 ................364.80
2004 ................410.52
2005 ................446.00
2006 ................610.00
2007 ................702.57
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cheapybob
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Apr 02 05:48 AM-
gigem77
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Apr 02 07:16 AM-
sdavid0419
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Apr 02 07:52 AM-
electraman
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Apr 02 08:25 AM-
David Lentz
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Apr 02 09:15 AMMore likely is the possibility that gold is a highly volatile (and emotional) commodity, with no more inflation resistance than any other commodity -- possibly less, due to all the attention focused upon it.
And rather than looking at the price of gold from the prior peak (1980) or low (~2000), it might be helpful to look at a chart of gold vs the dollar over the past hundred years or so. Then I think one would see that if there is a correlation between the two, it is not a very strong one.
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David Lentz
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Apr 02 09:23 AMAnd if there is inflation, show it to me in the money supply numbers, please -- don't just rant about it. Rising prices does not equal inflation.
Mish Shedlock (and others) have repeatedly demonstrated that there is no overt expansion in the money supply, that the real danger is that the Fed is not able to create credit as fast as it is being destroyed, and we will slide into deflation.
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Pent up demand
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Apr 02 09:41 AM-
bearfund
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Apr 02 10:55 AMThere are two things any investor interested in gold should look for in an article about the metal. One is a chart or table of prices starting in 1980 or any comparison of today's prices to the 1980 price, inflation-adjusted or not. The other is anything about the 1933 confiscation or anything with religious overtones. Articles with either feature are intended not to educate or inform but to inspire emotional reactions that lead to unsound investment decisions.
Instead of 1980, for example, this chart should begin in 1974, when Bretton Woods completed its collapse and the modern gold market opened. After all, if I wrote an article on stock prices and started my chart in 2000, you might well be tempted to conclude that stocks are a terrible investment all around. But that would be dishonest; the modern stock market has been around in more or less the same form for much longer. That's true of the gold market as well. If you want to make a point about market conditions during a particular interval (since 2000, stocks have been a pretty lousy investment; from 1980 to 2001, gold was a pretty lousy investment), that's fine. But cherry-picking starting points is just dishonest.
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Tim Price
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Apr 02 10:57 AM-
GaryD
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Apr 02 11:00 AM-
drbagel
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Apr 02 11:17 AM-
gigem77
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Apr 02 12:28 PMJohn Williams says the growth is 16% www.shadowstats.com/al...
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TonyC-SA
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Apr 02 12:57 PMIn 1980 we had the most inflation since 1940 or so, and that is why gold was high. The CPI was 100 in 1982-84, and it is currently around twice that, indicating the value of the dollar has HALVED since then. GOLD has indeed been an inflation hedge, you cannot talk about gold as an inflation hedge being a MYTH without taking inflation into account! Nobody is claiming that it is some great investment, the only claim is that it holds it value when dollars are in decline, so it is at least a safe harbor. And if Newmont Mining is to be believed, it is getting harder to find and reduced supply with increased demand is going to make it an even safer harbor.
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TonyC-SA
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Apr 02 01:04 PMen.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Schippi
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Apr 02 01:53 PMSchippi
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E.D. Hart
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Apr 02 03:14 PMYou make some excellent points.
Why does gold investing split people emotionally into two camps?
Its a commodity, its a metal, its an asset, its a store of value, and its mostly negatively correlated with the other markets made out of paper.
Why not own some paper and some metal both?
It does well in times of rising inflation, like now, and poorly at other times.
A well known fact, but underreported one, is the well orchestrated efforts of the worlds central banks to keep the price of gold artificially low.
Therefore, it does make some superficial sense to point out that gold has been a relatively poor investment and "barbarous relic" since 1980.
But, why not since 1971, as others have said?
How is the use of historical price data not a reliable indicator of the future potential?
Because US, UK (Gordon Brown), and EEU have been systematically selling hundreds of tons on the gold markets yearly to lower prices.
And they do so at a loss of future price appreciation.
They do so to suppress the price to placate inflation expectations of the public--and lately this has been ineffective.
I frequently shake my head at the "shooter behind the grassy knoll crowd". I don't think most conspiracy theories pan out--a simpler explanation can often (tho not always) be found.
But in this case, the theory that world governments artificially suppress the price of gold--it's really out in the open (mostly).
Gordon Brown dumping approximately half of British gold reserves at the low is but one of many examples.
Eventually they will learn, or run out of gold. Furthermore, the reporting of the CPI itself is artificial and erroneous. Real inflation is closer to 8-10% than 4%...and it has been for many years.
Governments provide bogus inflation numbers to control costs in their budgets and have an essentially free lunch.
As bond investors and the fixed income crowd wake up over the next five years to the stealth tax of inflation--they will pull money out of bonds when they can. Some of that money goes into TIPS, some into commodities, some into other assets.
Finally, the inflation adjusted price of gold is NOT $2200 or so as reported in the media...it is closer to $4000 plus.
Why the discrepancy? Because the media is using official government statistics. See: Shadowstats.com
I am a skeptical reader of the site, but its basic premise is correct. Inflation is vastly underreported.
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E.D. Hart
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Matt Blackman
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Apr 02 06:38 PMBen Bernanke wasn't kidding when he asked a couple of years ago why we should worry about deflation as long as we had printing presses and helicopters. It is clear he now running both at combat speed! Certainly no reason to expect the dollar decline to end anytime soon.
Kinda takes the starch out of Price's anti-gold argument doesn't it?
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ChrisG
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Apr 02 11:34 PMIn regards to gold price suppression by central banks, take a look at the gold lease rates: www.kitco.com/images/l...
Yes, the short term rate actually went negative! Central banks are literally paying out to encourage borrowing (and dumping onto the physical market) of their gold.
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Saint Xinon
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Apr 03 01:07 AM1> You do not have to write "In god we trust" on it.
2> Governments and time can come and go people on planets have faith in it.
3> In case of sudden banking and financial system failure it is only accepted money.... ask people from Indonesia ....
Rest is paper and wires and promises.....
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johngonole
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Apr 03 02:19 AM-
Trelvin
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Apr 03 03:28 AMThe bet is that speedy transactions will come to gold but those transactions may not go into gold if value is found elsewhere. So banks selling gold to create value is not a bad idea; until velocity tanks the price on its own when that is perceived as its only intrinsic worth. Would you carry gold and water in the desert for very long?
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TonyC-SA
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Apr 03 08:17 AMWHAT? As to water, YES. As to gold, yes. Somebody might trade me food or more water or shelter or transportation for the gold, so I doubt even a pound of gold coins is going to make a huge difference in how far I can go in the desert. If I can only choose one, I'll take the water, but that (as is pointed out in a post above) is a false choice, we can split our investment money pretty finely.
Also, I disagree with the idea that velocity represents the "intrinsic worth" of gold, it's intrinsic worth is in its rarity and as an ingredient in its inherent elemental properties that cannot be duplicated. It is not just jewelry and its value is not entirely due to some sort of psychological quirk of humans. As for velocity, I don't care a whit how often others are trading gold or whether there is an "opportunity"... to raise a price, and I don't know any serious investor that does. My only opportunity to raise the price is when **I** sell what I have. I agree that liquidity is an important consideration, and very active trading is a clear indicator of assymetric information (and a bubble when one side of that information is just mistakenly optimistic). But such indicators are not predictive of prices, they just warn you to pay attention and find out what it is you don't know, and correct at least what may be a personal information deficit.
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