Overselling the Case for Indexing
By Jim Wiandt
Matt Hougan - do you really believe 0.6%?
I'm sure the authors of the paper have used all of the right caveats on assumptions to distance themselves to some degree from taking full responsibility for their statement that 0.6% of active managers are beating the market with genuine skill, but such a pronouncement surely defies logic.
I think taking anything that comes out favorably to our position and parroting it does a disservice to ourselves and our readers: Hougan the demagogue ... and he seems so mild mannered. I mean, honestly, are the markets really so efficient that only 0.6% of professional active managers are able to beat the dollar-cost-averaging masses? And I'm saying this as a true index investor who doesn't own a SINGLE actively managed fund.
It all boils down the fact that on some level, you can make the numbers say whatever you want them to (though it is hard to imagine someone having the gall to try to come out with a study purporting, say, that 0.6% of index managers outperform the average active manager).
This is along the lines of those famous asset allocation studies (starting with Brinson) that purported that 80%, or 90% or 98% ... and then in one case over 100% (when the cat was out of the bag on what the numbers actually meant) of performance variation was based on your asset allocation. Try to tell me there's not single-stock risk or timing variation of sectors or subsectors that is possible in an individual portfolio. In effect, it can become a battle of semantics. But as a close friend of mine told me of an embarrassing incident he had when he was a young lawyer, telling a senior partner something was "just semantics."
"(In law) SEMANTICS IS PRETTY *#@&! IMPORTANT!)
Well I think semantics is pretty important in general, and something that is positioned deceptively but with watertight methodology, is nearly as false (and can be so in a more powerful way) as an outright lie.
So that is my initial reaction to 0.6% without even reviewing the research, though what IS interesting to me is that the percentage has gone down in recent years. Maybe I'm wrong on the big-picture issue about the 0.6%, but I doubt it.
I'm absolutely convinced that there are plenty of people out there who are nimble and smart enough to beat the market and to do it with relative consistency, but I think they are a diminishing minority, and that the hurdles they have to overcome in terms of cost and inefficiency are very large indeed. But 0.6%? We'll KNOW something's up if the next study around, the researchers tell us a NEGATIVE percentage of active managers have the genuine skill to beat the market.
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This article has 11 comments:
- ikkyu
- 107 Comments
Jul 15 08:51 AMcheers,
john
- Pent up demand
- 94 Comments
Jul 15 09:10 AMThese studies are not an argument for the end of active management, but I think they probably make a good case that management fees need to fall.
- ETFnerd
- 28 Comments
Jul 15 09:25 AMI agree that it is not efficient to have every member of society repeating the same investment analysis in every home and workplace. However indexers are not paying their fair share of the significant cost of producing the actionable results of investment analysis. Its a free lunch in that they get the answers to the exam from the inherent transparency in security prices without having to study or pay for it.
Indexing is good or not based on the quality of aggregate market knowledge.
The balance in the mix of information producers and free-riding indexers has been affected to a great extent by information technology and the resultant cost of information.
If 100% indexing was the case, then asset allocation would be random. Try running a business making random decisions.
- najdorf
- 69 Comments
Jul 15 12:09 PMAs a result, prices became less accurate, less information-driven, more volatile, chaotic, and momentum-driven. At that point, more active managers would be able to beat this market, either by out-trading it or practicing good analysis and a buy-and-hold strategy. The minority of investors who actually pay attention would notice and shift their assets from indexing to these managers, and we would move towards equilibrium again.
The other thing you need to remember is that mutual funds aren't the whole world. A well-diversifed portfolio of stocks, chosen rationally and held for expense and tax efficiency, can absolutely beat the index: the problem for active managers isn't that they're completely clueless, it's that investors pay them high fees regardless of whether they make any profit, and pay high taxes due to their frequent trading. So even if mutual fund investors figured out that indexing beats most current AMFs and shifted assets accordingly, you would still see wealthy individuals and institutions building rational stock portfolios and providing value information to the market. You also would see some of the best AMF managers lower costs to try to beat the market and retain assets.
As to the specific study, it seems like the researchers found some percentage of active managers who have beaten the market return, then used some statistics to attempt to figure out a margin of market-beating that is "statistically significant" (which is never as scientific as it sounds), then counted what percentage beat this hurdle. I think there's some merit to this approach, but it can lead to over-stating results. I wonder if they counted what percentage of managers have market-beating skills but didn't beat the market due to random variance, or only applied the statistics in one direction?
- ETFnerd
- 28 Comments
Jul 15 12:35 PMI think that you completely misunderstand my post. There can be no indexing if there is no active management. Active managers in modern economies perform the asset allocation function. Individual active managers can underperform or outperform the market. So what? In aggregate they must return the market rate of return.
Without them you'd be left with technical analysts, speculators and market timers, so how would they allocate capital properly in the economy without doing fundamental research.
Read Bill Sharpe's article here if you still don't understand:
www.stanford.edu/~wfsharpe/art/active/...
- ETFnerd
- 28 Comments
Jul 15 12:37 PM- ETFnerd
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Jul 15 12:37 PM- ETFnerd
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Jul 15 12:38 PM- ETFnerd
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Jul 15 12:38 PM- ETFnerd
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Jul 15 12:39 PMWilliam F. Sharpe"
- Robert M. Cavezza
- 1 Comment
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