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David in D
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Is Paul Krugman Serious? Sadly, Yes.
As for many of the other posts here who blindly continue (rank-and-file) to be in the "low-tax" and "screw capital gains tax" camps, have you not learned anything these past thirty years. Until the bottom crust(s) of America experience some serious wage improvements we will not move ahead economically.
Wage inequality is more at the root of our current crisis than capital gains taxes or "Krugman socialism" as some posters have suggested. Fix that, and you will go a long way toward fixing our fiscal mess.
The Right Way to Encourage Home Ownership
It seems we are working very hard to ignore the reality that our home assets have become way over valued and until we deal with that every "solutution" will only incite further problems.
My Plan to Repair Housing in America
Thus, as BR said well, if you want to work on the housing problem start finding ways to improve middle class earnings.
Another 'Root Cause' That Isn't: Tumbling Home Prices
Belvedere Research: Well said, I agree.
America Will Print as Much Money as It Takes
Dr. Duru: A quick question that doesn't explicitly pertain to your article but is vaguely related. Is it safe to assume that excessive printing of currencies causes inflation? If yes, wouldn't inflation help to "stabilize" the housing market by bringing earnings up to the dollar amounts owed (thus stabilizing the ability of the American public to service their debt)? Obviously, this would be good for those heavily in debt and bad for folks who have savings but isn't there a silver lining here in terms of market stability?
I look forward to gaining your insight on this.
The Difference Between 1993 and 2009
Frankly, your 10% income tax proposal and the elimination of the capital gains tax heavily favors those with wealth at the expense of the poor and working class. What exactly do you propose the single mother with two kids and working for $8 per hour do? Cutting her health care access certaily doesn't help her. Seriously, I would like to hear you address the "poor/working class" in America -- what is your proposal for them?
Finally, your "low tax" agenda will not have another political chance in America for at least a decade. Bush 43 completely discredited it by giving tax breaks to the elite while running up huge defiicts. Republicans, at the moment, have NO credibility as fiscal conservatives. Therefore, if we are going to run big deficits let's at least take care of our poplulance instead of bombing innocent countries and giving contracts to Haliburton to rebuild them.
Similarities to U.S. 1937, Japan 1998
John1, Curbs-In, thedozer: Why are you all so pessimistic towards Obama and "liberals?" It's amazing to me how staunch conservative rhetoric is despite the complete contrary evidence that speaks against the "wisdom" of Reaganomics, trickle-down theory, deregulation, and lowering upper-class tax rates. Are you three for real? Have you been paying attention to the economics of the last 30 years (especially the last 7.5)? The last time we had a balanced budget and improving middle-class wages (which drive our economy) was in the late 90's? Seriously, wake up!
3 Things America Needs to Do to Get the Economy Back on Track
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Don’t Blame Wall Street - At Least Not Completely
My comment about the 60's and 70's was (admittedly) not specific enough. What I meant is to say is that middle class wages, as compared with the wealthiest crust of America, were actually much closer than what we have today. Clearly we have a widening wealth gap now and a squeezed middle class and ABSOLUTELY Reagan's notion of a tax cut for all and huge deficit spending was the start of our disaster today. (And by the way, for everyone who want to assert that "defense spending in the 80's brought down communism" and thus were justified deficits, I suggest you look at the correlation btw oil prices and fall of the Soviet Union. Many Soviet economist, post-fall, cite that as the main actual internal problem for the USSR - not Reagan's antics.)
But I digress, instead or Reaganomics, we need a progressive tax code the lessens taxes for the middle class, holds upper middle-class taxes steady, and raises taxes on the wealthiest couple of percent of America. We should provide targeted incentives for job creation, but a tax cut for the wealthy and job creation are not directly (or at least efficiently) linked.
To repeat, trickle-down economics has been discredited along with the Bush tax cuts. I'd be interested to hear other thoughts on this along with Pretzel's comments.
Don’t Blame Wall Street - At Least Not Completely
Here's where I think your article is nuts. To claim that Wall St. is responsible for America's prosperity because the guy "working at Wal-Mart" can "buy a car" misses the point. If lending didn't exist in its current form other possibilities would exist for transportation or other products (such as the scooter I ride to work) would be more popular and people would generally save money for what they absolutely needed (or they would ride the bus).
The problem IS precisely that people - encouraged by Wall St banks - spent more than they could afford and assets rose to meet that false demand. Yes the borrower is guilty of having a bigger appetite than his Wal-Mart wage could sustain, but the tax payer surely should not bail out the banker who made the loan to a person who couldn't repay it. The borrower and the bank should go bankrupt and this is exactly what many people such as myself are saying when we say "you are out of touch with mainstreet." We don't want to pay for other's bad mistakes and I don't think Armaggedon is going to descend on us if we don't bail out the banks... tough times for a while... but not disaster. My daughter (who is now 3) is not going to be paying for this bailout if I have anything to say about it.
The Main Street - Wall Street Bout, Round Two
Yes, average Americans generally understand that not providing a bailout will cause immediate problems, but frankly average Americans have not benefitted much from the economic forces of the last three decades.
The revolt, although somewhat knee-jerk and unconscious, is really about the widening wealth gap in America and until the US government wants to acknowledge that the middle-class has been getting screwed while Wall St. elites have been reaping rewards, we will fundamentally go no where.
An agreement must be reached that "insures" the risk at hand and companies who made dumb decisions should pay an appropriate premium for that insurance... otherwise they should go bankrupt with the consumers who made bad decisions borrowing what they did.
We have got to quick rewarding bad decisions!
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The Great Bank Rush of 2008: What's the Money For?
Don’t Blame Wall Street - At Least Not Completely
Here's the truth. America was the great economic superpower it was because of the middle-class. Hard working, smart, dependable people who put great ingenuity to play for the whole world. Our greatest days were the 1960-70's when the middle-class got a fair shake and when the difference between the wealthiest crust of America was closer to the median American worker. That is what built America's economic prosperity.
Now that Reaganomics has been discredited, the Bush Administration is found lacking in all areas, and Wall Street's own inventions have imploded we would best use our energies figuring out how to reward the middle 90% of America.
Seriously though, you have to get a grip and go live a while with normal people!
More on Interdependence and This Crisis
I'm no professional economist, but in this "best-case" scenerio wouldn't the only real solution be to actually encourage inflation to bump incomes upward 20-40% to make the existing paper loans affordable? I recognize that inflation also produces adverse effects in terms of savings being gobbled up, but it seems to me that the only sort of solution is an "adjustment" of asset prices as it is related to (particularly) working class earnings and I don't see how to do that outside of inflating our economy.
I am curious to hear your (and other's) thoughts on this.