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Stay Away from Yahoo Despite Persistent Microsoft Merger Rumors
Pull your head out of your assets, and use it rationally and logically, and not some jerk-knee reaction where you're trying to kick someone in the crotch.
For Yahoo and AOL, Will Opening Up Their Portals Be Enough?
Hurco: A Buy at the Current Price
Hurco doesn't have anything outside of the tools it sells, unless they've suddenly branched out into teaching people classes, which is largely redundant with their CNC machines: I know how redundant that'd be, because I was laid off from Hurco in 2001 when they went down into the bad part of the cycle, where I was working on the code for the CNC and press brake control software.
I understand from talking to my former boss that while Hurco clearly appears to be far more profitable financially, it has changed atmosphere in a way that's not as employee-friendly.
Yahoo Goes Purple (And You Thought Microsoft's Ad Campaign Was Weird)
Yahoo! has just done subversive marketing and has snared you in its (inter)net! :D
Missing: 200 Million Yahoo! Shares from Last Friday's Annual Meeting
Believe it or not, Yahoo! isn't losing money: the only thing being lost at Yahoo! right now is investor and employee confidence in them. By the measures of most companies in the world, they're suitably profitable, but when compared to the likes of Google, they seem like they're not doing well.
I'm hoping by your comment that you were one of those short-term fools that lost a lot of money because you counted on something you just can't count on: what people will do. If you can't tolerate the risk, you shouldn't jump into the deep end of the pool with all the sharks that haven't been fed recently. If you can, just shut up about it, because that's the nature of such things: they're inherently risky.
Icahn "Encouraged" by Yahoo, But Retains Cudgel
Yahoo: Fighting for Its Life, Uses Homepage To Battle Icahn
Now, as to the Search thing referred to by hw2h: Microsoft can, in fact, lower the price for those that are paying the bills: the advertisers. They have, in fact (in a limited manner) lowered the price for searchers with their recent promotion (do you know what that promotion is? Search for it! :) ) but if people don't want to use it, even for free, or even when paid to use it, it's purely a liability on the balance sheet, as it has been almost the entire time, and the losses are only getting bigger. If advertisers don't get results, why bother with them? Microsoft doesn't have the volume of either Yahoo! or Google, and therefore can't get the results advertisers want, and therefore can't get the advertisers Microsoft wants, and it seems users rarely use it, so as a side-effect of that, the search results are going to be subpar, and not give the users of Search what they want, and... nobody gets what they want, so the value proposition is in the crapper for all parties involved. Hence, Microsoft wanting and needing to buy Yahoo! to achieve critical mass. Yahoo! has the numbers, and while not as profitable as Google at this time, is at least profitable, while Microsoft's online properties have only had a single quarter where they were in the black, and every other quarter has seen massive losses for all the years.
Either Microsoft needs to complete the deal, or they'd be wiser financially to work on other things, if they're not going to make it grow into profitability. You can't simply increase profitability long-term by taking on more and more losses for a long time, if you're not actually growing customer base to where they'll eventually pay off. It seems Microsoft is simply not growing Search user or Search advertiser customer base towards profitability, and both need to be synchronized for the bottom line: if you don't have searchers, you can't get much for advertising, but if you don't have advertising that's effective, you may not get as many searchers, and without enough searchers, there's less complete detail as to what people are searching for: this completes the vicious cycle.
Talk of AOL-Yahoo Combo Raises Its Ugly Head (Again)
Then again, tying up that much capital in AOL AND getting Yahoo! at a price the Yahoo! board and stockholders will go for seems like a bit of a stretch. However, due to China having new laws/whatever in effect, Microsoft would have to sell off the Asian assets of Yahoo! which could make it all feasible overall.
Of course, it'd be simpler if Microsoft just either threw enough money for a whole Yahoo! or actually did walk away, and mean it this time.
Whatever the final result, being a pawn in the whole thing, I have hopes for one thing: that Carl Icahn loses money in the whole deal, seeing as he has zero interest in long-term benefits other than to his short-term profit prospects. After all, he doesn't know squat about the tech world, and definitely this is all out of his realm.
Yahoo/Microsoft: Dead Deal Talk Replaced with New Buzz
If Microsoft could have made meaningful progress by throwing money at the whole thing, surely they would have made progress by now, via marketing and/or getting the needed employees: but, the evidence shows they have not. If people have chosen not to move to where Microsoft wants them to move, and won't interview at Microsoft, it doesn't matter how much money Microsoft has: they can't do it. I know many people that reject considering Microsoft as an employer purely on principle. You factor that in with Microsoft's reputation for the wringer they put interviewees through, and you have a double whammy that makes it less likely. If Microsoft wants to have a chance (a chance, not a guarantee) they need to buy something that already is successful, and hopefully not change things too much, lest they manage it into complete failure: after all, they've already got MSN as an example of their management.
Microsoft Crosses a Line
the change of control severance plan is NOT a poison pill to any would-be acquiring entity that actually wants the most valuable assets: the people and technology. It's also not uncommon to have similar things enacted for higher management: it's only unusual that it extends to everyone, down to the lowliest clerks/peons in the company. But if you want something intact and aren't intending on gutting it, it helps to assure those that desire to stay (for whatever reason) that at least if there is a major layoff, they will have something to live off while competing against all their former coworkers for a dearth of jobs with a sudden glut of people to compete against. In all reality, it's the people and their knowledge of the technology and their established teams that Microsoft values: without that, none of what you know as Yahoo! would have succeeded. Without the people who already know how to work together, all Yahoo! (or Microsoft, or Google) would be is a bunch of leased buildings and rapidly depreciating, horribly abused computer hardware.
If it were only about money to get things done by hiring people, Microsoft would already have managed to do it: the reality is if people don't work together properly, things aren't managed properly, and you can't get people to even interview because of who/what you are in the eyes of the potential employees, you'll never achieve the goal. You can't simply hire a bunch of software developers and point them at something and say "Go make us a bunch of money, and we'll pay you!" and have it be successful. After all, how many people do you think Microsoft has working on MSN and all other online properties? Now, how much have they made in terms of profit? (Answer: it'd only be impressive if negative numbers were considered profitable).
Both Yahoo! and Microsoft know that regardless of all other outward appearances, money isn't the solution: having the people Yahoo! has already is the solution, because they know what they're doing from a technical standpoint. Now, the management, well, it may be sinking towards the mess that defines Microsoft: if Microsoft could already manage their way to success, with their many times larger employee base, surely they would have done so by now, wouldn't they?
The Yahoo-Microsoft Soap Opera Continues
As to your username choice? Keep in mind, once again, this is the internet, and things are largely automated. Based on the comments I see here, chances are you were again being a total twit and spouting off beyond reason, and they decided you weren't worth bothering with.
When you're working within the confines of some country conducting business, you're stuck having to deal with the law enforcement of that particular country if you wish to do business. If you don't, you're still stuck with the consequences. Those Chinese dissidents that had their information handed over, and as a result they were dealt with according to the government's whims? Well, once again, that demonstrates the point that just because you want to state "I have free speech!" and you do it on someone else's domain, doesn't mean you're protected, and according to the laws of China, they were determined to be guilty of something. "But that's not fair!" I can see you screaming with an idiotic expression, well, be that as it may, surely if someone went running into your house and screaming a death threat at you, you'd also say "Get out of here, or get the crap beaten out of you, you're violating my rights!" but then again, it isn't reasonable to expect stupid hypocrites to recognize themselves for what they are. The only solution any multinational country has to the problem of following the laws of a given country and remaining in business is to not have any presence at all within those countries: if you actually check, most large corporations are distinctly multinational, and have to play by the rules of their associated countries, or be seized by the local government. The biggest difference just happens to be in the case of internet giants like Google, Yahoo! and Microsoft is that it's more feasible to use them as digital meeting places, printing presses and hideouts, at least until they're found by their governments. In effect, Yahoo!, Google and Microsoft as online entities are stuck in much the same place as accessories to crimes as defined by the local governments as phone companies are when meetings and conversations of a subversive nature are done over the phone: they're stuck having to deal with turning over the information to the authorities when they demand them. If you think China and the Yahoo! or Google incidents are an isolated thing, I strongly encourage you to research the PATRIOT act, which is the US's currently standing bit of legislation that makes it harder to expect protection by carriers of similar actions and "speech" as in China. Oh, now there's an inconvenient truth! Before you whine about how one company treats citizens in another country according to its laws, first make sure your own country changes its own laws to match your ideals, so you don't look like the idiot you clearly are.
Yahoo!: The Final (Star) Trek?
1. A change of control
2. A significant change of job responsibilities or other qualifying event that's burdensome in a meaningful way, or being laid off.
In other words, the CoC severance plan that many want to scream about being too expensive doesn't even factor into the numbers for people leaving before any CoC happens: they leave with however much they'd get before the CoC severance plan was even conceived, and they potentially lose out on any benefits that may have resulted had they stayed.
Sources Say MicroHoo Is Back On
I still can't help but think that at this time, this is all a bunch of big stock holders attempting to manipulate the price of the stock to make a quick buck or million. I also doubt this would be Yahoo! insiders doing this, for at least a couple of reasons:
1. Most people with stock options are deep in the red right now anyway, so it isn't nearly worth the risk.
2. The amount of trouble that is involved clearly isn't worth it, with as much as Yahoo! is in the public eye and that of the SEC right now, with a looming showdown at the August 1st board meeting and a lawsuit by a bunch of idiots in charge of a Detroit retirement fund.
For the reason that it'd be harder to get a deal through, I also doubt anyone at Microsoft would be (that are truly involved) leaking such a thing, because at this point, there's more power probably by doing things behind the view of the public eye.
Bah, but this is just a blog ;)
Why Yahoo! Isn’t Worth Anything To Management and Investors
What a way to stick your neck out legally by accusing public people of being criminals of a high order of dubious achievement! You do realize just how much crap you've jumped into, by stating that? You don't even couch it in "I believe they are..." but rather come right out and state "They are" and there has been no legal investigation or ruling to say that they have, and yet, because you don't like what they've done, you assume it must be criminal action they've been committing!
There's a bit of leeway top executives have in carrying out their directives, and they have far more knowledge of what the situation is than you do, and you clearly can't look past your short-term stock price gains/losses, especially since you don't have the inside poop of what's planned long-term.
There's a line between what might reasonably be called journalism, and what is called libel: you can call anyone you want a criminal when it has been proven, and if you believe they're guilty of crimes, you can state you believe they're guilty, but when you come out and state it like you have, that's libel! You, unkind sir, are the real criminal in this story!